
Category: Prop Firms | Date: 2026-09-24
Topstep and Lucid Trading both fund futures traders through an evaluation with a $3,000 target on a $50K account and a $2,000 maximum loss, and both pay 90/10 once you are funded. They differ in three places that decide which one suits you: how they charge for the evaluation, how their consistency rules work, and which platforms you can trade on.
Every rule below was re-read from Topstep’s and Lucid’s own help centers on 2026-09-24. Both firms change rules and promotions often — Topstep changed its platform line-up and pricing during 2026 — so confirm the current terms before you buy. An earlier version of this page described both firms as Tradovate-based; that is no longer accurate for Topstep and never fully was for Lucid.
| $50K account | Topstep Trading Combine | Lucid Trading |
|---|---|---|
| Profit target | $3,000 | $3,000 (LucidPro, LucidFlex, LucidDaily); LucidDirect has no evaluation |
| Maximum loss | $2,000, end-of-day trailing | $2,000, end-of-day trailing (LucidFlex funded) |
| Daily loss limit | Optional add-on at checkout; hitting it is not a violation | Plan-dependent — optional on LucidFlex, fixed on LucidPro |
| Evaluation consistency | Best day at or below 55% of the profit target, or the target rises | None on LucidPro; 50% on LucidFlex |
| Evaluation pricing | $49/mo + $149 activation, or $95/mo with no activation fee | Varies by plan and promotion; see Lucid’s site |
| Max size | 5 minis / 50 micros | 4 minis / 40 micros (LucidFlex funded) |
| Profit split | 90/10 from the first dollar | 90/10 on every plan |
| Platforms | TopstepX for new accounts | Tradovate, NinjaTrader, TradingView (CQG) or Rithmic-based platforms |
Topstep’s help center lists two ways to pay for the Trading Combine, and you cannot switch after purchase. The Standard path is $49/month for the 50K, $99 for the 100K and $199 for the 150K, with a one-time $149 activation fee charged each time you earn an Express Funded Account. The No Activation Fee path is $95, $149 and $229 per month with no activation charge. Either way, the monthly fee continues until you pass or cancel.
Lucid sells four plan types — LucidPro, LucidFlex, LucidDirect and LucidDaily — each with its own price by account size, and runs frequent promotions. We could not read Lucid’s pricing page directly when this was written, so we do not quote a number. If you plan to run several evaluations at once, compare the total cost of your intended number of accounts at each firm on the day you buy.
In the Combine, Topstep asks that your best single day stay at or below 55% of the profit target. Breaking it does not fail the account; it raises the target to your best day divided by 0.55. So a $2,000 best day on a $50K Combine lifts the target from $3,000 to about $3,636. Once funded, you choose a payout path: Standard needs five winning days of $150 or more, while the Consistency path needs three days with your largest day at or below 40% of net profit.
Lucid’s consistency rule depends on the plan. LucidPro has no consistency rule in the evaluation, but applies a 40% rule to each funded payout cycle — your largest day can be no more than 40% of the cycle’s profit. LucidFlex does the reverse: a 50% consistency rule in the evaluation and none once funded. If you tend to make most of your profit on one or two big days, LucidPro’s evaluation is the fastest pass on offer here; if you want a funded account without a consistency rule, LucidFlex is the one built for that.
Both firms use an end-of-day trailing maximum loss of $2,000 on the 50K: the floor moves up with your end-of-day balance, and Topstep monitors breaches in real time including unrealised P&L. On LucidFlex funded accounts Lucid lists $1,000, $2,000, $3,000 and $4,500 for the 25K, 50K, 100K and 150K sizes.
Daily loss limits are optional at both firms in some form. Topstep offers one as a checkout add-on and says hitting it is not a rule violation — the account stays open. Lucid makes it optional on LucidFlex and fixed on LucidPro. Whatever the firm’s setting, a personal daily stop well inside it is the cheapest insurance you can buy.
| Topstep | Lucid Trading | |
|---|---|---|
| Split | 90/10 from the first dollar | 90/10 on every plan |
| Minimum request | $125 | $500 (LucidPro) |
| Eligibility | Standard: 5 winning days of $150+; Consistency: 3 days within 40% | LucidPro: 40% consistency per cycle plus a buffer of the initial max loss + $100 |
| Per-request cap (50K) | $2,000–$3,000, doubled if you added a daily loss limit | LucidPro: $1,000–$3,000 first payout, up to $3,500 later, by size |
| Frequency | After each qualifying cycle; daily with no cap after 30 winning days in a Live Funded Account | Any day once eligible (LucidPro); LucidDaily allows daily requests |
| Processing | Same day to brokerage if requested by noon CT; ACH 1–3 business days | Disbursed within 2 business days |
Topstep now runs new accounts on TopstepX, its own platform. Several independent reviews report that new Trading Combines became TopstepX-only in July 2026 and that Tradovate, NinjaTrader and Rithmic credentials are no longer issued to new traders, while older accounts on those platforms can still be traded. TopstepX does not connect to external platforms such as TradingView.
Lucid’s help center, updated July 2026, lists twelve platforms on two data feeds. On CQG: NinjaTrader, Tradovate and TradingView. On Rithmic: MotiveWave, Quantower, TradeSea, Sierra Chart, Jigsaw, Bookmap, ATAS, R|Trader Pro and MultiCharts. It states that all of them work with all Lucid account types.
The practical consequence: if you want to trade in TradingView or NinjaTrader, Lucid supports it and a new Topstep account does not. If you are happy on a single proprietary platform, TopstepX is purpose-built for Topstep’s rules.
The two firms treat copying very differently. Topstep’s help center says all trading activity must originate from your personal device and that VPS, VPN and remote-server trading is prohibited; copying across your own Topstep accounts is done with TopstepX’s built-in copier or its API from your own machine, and API trading is not allowed on Live Funded accounts. Signal Trade App is a cloud service and does not connect to Topstep or TopstepX accounts.
Lucid accounts run on Tradovate (CQG) or Rithmic, both of which Signal Trade App connects to, so you can copy one leader across several Lucid accounts — or across Lucid and other Tradovate- or Rithmic-based firms — with each follower keeping its own size ratio and its own drawdown tracking. That matters when rules differ: a LucidPro funded account under a 40% payout rule can be locked for the day on its own while an evaluation on the same leader keeps copying.
Before copying into any funded account, check that firm’s current rules on automated and copied trading. Both firms change their terms, and the firm’s own help center is the authority, not a third-party tool.
Signal Trade App is $30 for the first month and then $15/month with no limit on accounts; the 5-day trial requires a card. Start a trial, connect your Lucid accounts, and test a copy group on your evaluation accounts first.
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Neither is better for everyone. Topstep is the longest-established firm, with low monthly pricing and its own TopstepX platform. Lucid offers more platform choice and plan types, including LucidPro with no evaluation consistency rule and LucidFlex with no funded consistency rule.
According to Topstep’s help center on 2026-09-24: $49, $99 or $199 per month for the 50K, 100K and 150K on the Standard path plus a $149 activation fee per funded account earned, or $95, $149 and $229 per month on the No Activation Fee path.
In the Trading Combine your best single day should stay at or below 55% of the profit target. If it goes above, the target rises to best day divided by 0.55; the account is not failed.
It depends on the plan. LucidPro has none in the evaluation but a 40% rule on funded payouts. LucidFlex has a 50% rule in the evaluation and none once funded.
Both pay 90/10 in the trader’s favour. Topstep applies it from the first dollar for sign-ups since January 2026, and Lucid applies it on every plan.
Both use an end-of-day trailing maximum loss of $2,000 on a 50K account. Lucid lists $1,000 to $4,500 by size on LucidFlex funded accounts.
Not for new accounts, according to multiple reviews: new Trading Combines have been TopstepX-only since July 2026. Older accounts on Tradovate, NinjaTrader or Rithmic can still be traded. Lucid supports Tradovate, NinjaTrader and TradingView on CQG, plus Rithmic platforms.
Lucid’s help center lists NinjaTrader, Tradovate and TradingView on CQG, and MotiveWave, Quantower, TradeSea, Sierra Chart, Jigsaw, Bookmap, ATAS, R|Trader Pro and MultiCharts on Rithmic.
Topstep sends same-day transfers to brokerage if requested by noon CT, and ACH in 1 to 3 business days. Lucid disburses LucidPro payouts within 2 business days.
Yes. Nothing stops you holding accounts at both firms. Check each firm’s current rules on copied or automated trading before you mirror trades between them.
No. Signal Trade App does not connect to Topstep or TopstepX; Topstep’s terms require trading from your personal device and prohibit remote servers. It does connect Lucid accounts on Tradovate or Rithmic, so you can copy across your Lucid accounts and other Tradovate- or Rithmic-based firms.
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